Greg interviews Rick Perry, the former Governor of Texas and former U.S. Secretary of Energy and leading advocate for ibogaine, live at the Real Summit.

In this episode, we discuss:

• How a former Texas governor moved from strict opposition to drugs to becoming a leading advocate for ibogaine after firsthand experience and veteran outcomes.
• Ibogaine’s impact on PTSD, opioid addiction, and traumatic brain injury, including Stanford-linked brain imaging data showing functional and structural improvement.
• How veterans are the proving ground that enabled Texas to commit $50M in public funding for ibogaine clinical trials.
• Why ibogaine requires intensive medical supervision and why rigorous trials are essential for legitimacy and scale.
• A vision where ibogaine reshapes addiction treatment, veteran care, and eventually criminal justice and homelessness policy.

Credits:

Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Greg Kubin
Produced by Caitlin Ner & Nico V. Rey 

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